14″ bandsaw build: the frame
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14″ bandsaw build: the frame

October 17, 2019

Hi. About a year ago,
I built this bandsaw. This turned out to be
a really good bandsaw and I use it
all the time. It’s my favorite
bandsaw. And quite a few people have
built copies of this bandsaw and they’re pretty
happy with it too. So I think I’ve got this bandsaw
building thing figured out. Now I’ve already
got 3 bandsaws. But I decided to build
another one because I wanted to experiment with
bandsaw building. So this is the frame
of the new bandsaw. It’s gonna be a bit of
an experiment because I’m trying all kinds of things
to make it easier to build the bandsaw and see what
I can get away with. Because I already know I can
build a really good one. So now it’s how fast and
how easy can I build one. So in this video I’m
gonna cover building the frame of this bandsaw and
then I’ll make more videos for other aspects of
building this bandsaw so… Enjoy the show. The lumber I’m using for
making the bandsaw frame is all from some
recycled Ikea shelves. And here I’m just putting a
straight edge on one side so I can trim that into
pieces that I need. So I’ve just about finished
putting together the layers. I’m using this
diagram here that’s got all the
layers on here. And except for the
incomplete back layer, I’ve got all the layers here.
I left the back layer out for the time being so that it
would stay flat on the bench. So, for instance, here you
can see the internal mortise and tenon that
gets formed by the layers as they go
on top of each other. Now the fit of these little
triangles, or gussets as you might want to call
it, is fairly important. And this one here doesn’t quite
fit so I need to actually shorten that a bit, so
if we slide that here and see how
that goes in we can see it doesn’t slide all
the way. So I’ll mark that. And I’ll cut that off
on the table saw. So now that fits in and the
pieces are nice and flush. Now the other thing that’s
important is that these triangles, that the grain falls
along the long edge of these. So that they provide
optimal support. These triangles are
there to prevent this arm from twisting
because the load is actually offset because the wheels
are in front of the frame. So that gives the whole frame
a want to twist a little bit. And these corners really
help to reinforce it. Before I start gluing this
up, I’m gonna just number all the pieces so that I can
get it back together in the right order because I made
sure everything fits here. This is layer 0. I’m now ready for the
first glue joint. I’m just using these 2
vertical pieces as spacers and these are 2
horizontal parts here. And I’m gonna put
this first one on here and I’ve absolutely
made sure everything is square and the right
distance so that I start that piece of the frame at
exactly the right angle. Now I just need to wait for
those first joints to dry. Well, with the clamps removed,
I’ve got basically just a simple C-frame.
Now so far I still have a fair bit of flex
in here in that I can get a fair bit of twist, like this,
and I want to make sure when I glue this, that
this is gonna be flat. And my workbench is
flat enough for this. So what I’m gonna do
is flip this over and then start building
up this part here with all the little
triangles and what not. And the first layer on here.
And that starts to form this beam here, which
has a lot of resistance to twist. So I’m gonna
weigh this down here and clamp it down here while
I glue this and that will make sure that this beam
has got no twist on it and these arms are
lined up parallel. So I have the first 3 layers
of the post glued together. And I’ve got the weight
and clamp here to make sure the arms
are parallel. And lots of clamps. You may not need quite that
many clamps and you could use screws or nails to
hold it together while the glue dries. But I have
a lot of clamps, so… that’s what I did. So this is the part of
the frame unclamped now. And with this big beam here
it has a lot of stiffness in terms of
twisting like this. So this is the front
of the frame. So now the next
thing I have to do is to start putting
these pieces on here to pull the next layer
towards the back. And as I clamp this, one of
the things I’m gonna do is I’m gonna clamp a piece
of wood across here just to make sure these end up
not having any twist in them. Because once I glue multiple
layers together like that, that really becomes
stiff as well. Second layer glued up.
I’ve got my straight piece clamped along here to make
sure these guys don’t have any twist
in them. And the second layer also
starts the legs on this side. So I glued
those in. And the start of the
wheel mount here. I clamped this board on
here to make sure these 2 pieces were
parallel this way. I had a bit of trouble
getting them parallel so by clamping that on there,
they’ll stay parallel. And I also made sure that
these form a straight line with the
frame here so… Everything
should be good. Once again I gotta wait
for the glue to dry. A tricky part where
you might screw up is that this leg piece here
doesn’t actually extend all the way to
the edge here. Because I’m gonna cut out
a big notch here anyways. So leg piece
is shorter. So that’s something to
keep in mind. Don’t move this all the way up to here
or it will be too short here. If you find that things are not
entirely flat after gluing, it helps to just use
a big hand plane and to smooth out some
of the steps so that this layer will
join smoothly. The glue I’m
using is just ordinary yellow
carpenter’s glue. There’s really nothing
special to it. I buy the stuff by the gallon
and it’s possibly not the strongest glue, but it’s
stronger than soft wood. And so for a bandsaw
frame like this, the glues gonna hold up
better in the wood, so… And I use so much that it’s
best to use a cheap glue. Fourth layer is
now glued on. I had to do a little bit
of flattening around here so lot’s of shavings.
Because the wood wasn’t all consistently the
same thickness. Now, in terms of strength,
this frame would probably be strong
enough already. But I need another layer to
complete this double mortise for the wheel
mounts on the top. And on the bottom I need
more width just to mount the table to. So I
might as well add a whole
complete layer. So finished gluing
up all the layers I added a partial layer on
the back, just to give me a little bit more area
for mounting stuff here. And plus it needs to be
wider down here for the motor mount. Now there’s
another member that goes along here. But I didn’t glue that in
because the bottom wheel mount has to be screwed in
from the bottom here. And once I put those pieces
on here, it becomes very difficult to come
in and drill. So I decided to leave those
off and glue them in afterwards. Once I had
the wheel mount holes drilled in here. I like to trim the frame down a
little bit after it’s built. Big bandsaw’s handy for that
but if you don’t have one use a circular saw
or even a hand saw. And here’s flattening the
left side of the frame. The other edges, unfortunately,
I have to use hand tools for.

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  1. Hello M Matthias i would like to know if I bought a plan of saw has ribbon is it possible to have the plan in french Please thank you to answer me daniel …

  2. Ok thank you so when I'm going to buy the plan of the saw of 16" i will be able to choose between the two languages,i'm going to buy a plan and thank you again Mr. Matthias and I like watching your video you have a lot of talent,and its given ideas good day daniel ….

  3. In the $50 to $600 range, depending how much junk you already have. If you have to ask, then your cost will probably be towards the high end.

  4. You could redesign slightly and build it out of plywood. But that would blow the cost advantage of using cheap or free wood. Plus the time in re jiggering for sheets of plywood. Do it the Matt way. 😉

  5. Matthias, I was wondering, about hardwood for the frame? I know its not weatherproof as pine, but… maybe that would solve your blade movement ? Also, I have Eastern Red Cedar (Juniper) What do you think of that? Very weatherproof. But conducive to this application? I dunno.

  6. Hi Matthias, love watching your videos. Very informative and inspirational. 
    I am thinking about building some small pieces of furniture (table, boxes) and am trying to get started. In your videos aside from the circular table saw, you seem to be doing everything on a bandsaw. 
    In your opinion, what would be the one tool/machine to buy for woodworking? (I already have a circular hand saw, a rounter and a hand jig saw). Would it be a bandsaw? And if so, how much money do you think I should invest to have something decent, that gives me good cut? Over here in Germany you can get a small bandsaw for about 100€: http://www.amazon.de/Atika-302410-Bandsäge-BS-205/dp/B002SA7QIO/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top?ie=UTF8&colid=2CSDVWCNKDLAP&coliid=I3LI3J3TK26B7C
    Could you maybe recommend any manufacturer?
    Thank you for your help 🙂

  7. why don't you use plywood? for the frame. also I want to make a huge 35-40" bandsaw . I want to make it 7' tall. do you think 6 layers of spf pyl wood would be alright??

  8. soy profesor de educacion tecnologica y seria un muy buen trabajo con los alumnos alomejor es mucho lo que le estoy pidiendo pero usted vera si me lo proporciona estare muy agradecido, he vuelto a trabajar despues de muchos años de enfermedad que fue un carcer de mieloma multiple y es por eso que no puedo comprale el plano porque quede en la ruina por favor ayudeme muchas gracias 

  9. hola amigo como estan? muy buenos tus videos. De casualidad no me puedes facilitar los planos para la fabricación de la sierra, gracias, soy de venezuela

  10. hello friend how are you? very good videos. By chance I can not make plans for making saw, thanks, I'm from Venezuela

  11. I was wondering, what if when the frame is about half assembled, what about taking the router and milling out some grooves and put some metal bars into the center of the whole frame, thinking two bars going roughly along the line of the triangles to help stiffen it even more.

  12. do you think the frame could be built using hardwoods or a combination of hard and soft woods? or does it need the soft wood to handle the vibration?

  13. boa noite Matthias , gostaria que vc me mandasse o projeto da serra de fita
    faço gaiolas para passaros.

  14. eu gostei muito do que vc apresentou, eu tentei fazer um igual mais não consegui.
    gostaria de saber com eu faço para comprar as peças que vc apresentou.

  15. About how much would is cost to make one if you just went to the store and bought everything? Motor and everything ?

  16. Hola amigo. Soy uno de sus tantos admiradores. Veo todos sus vídeos y gracias por compartir su conocimiento. Dios le bendiga a usted y toda su familia. 

  17. hola matthias me gustan todos sus proyectos y estoy muy interesado en conseguir los planos de la motorizing the bandsew…que debo hacer para comunicarme con usted o como me los puede enviar….gracias

  18. Ciao Matthias sono un tuo seguitore dall' Italia vorrei sapere come si chiama l'attrezzo che usi quando fai i fori in trasversale su due tavole grazie

  19. а можно более точней схему,и точные размеры всех деталей

  20. Dont know Sketchup at all…how tough would it be to reverse the drawing to utilize a motor that spins theother way?  In effect a left handed band saw….Curious….

  21. Hey Matthias,
    i bought the plans a while ago and finally strated to build the bandsaw.
    Is the layer diagram you use in the plans included? I looked through the plans but couldn´t find it.

  22. Matthias, Your reasoning for NOT building the frame out of plywood makes complete sense. I can't help wondering though if anyone has ever tried it? It would be interesting to know how much more a frame built from a high quality plywood would flex compared to one build as described in your plans. Any chance you would consider doing one of your experiments that would demonstrate the strength or flexibility between, say birch ply and pine?  Or whatever you feel is the most common material that people are using for the frame.  …just a thought

  23. Hello how are you?
    My name is Marcos I am Brazilian, I enjoyed of your project is very interesting and I wonder if there is the possibility to send me the dimensions of the cuts so I try to do one here as well.
    from already thank you!

  24. Matthias- I am currently working on a workbench and a tablesaw and router table station and your bandsaw is my next major project after those two. I have some cypress currently drying for the frame. I am leaning toward the 14 inch as I would like to use the sawmill feature. I have looked through your videos and website and can't find the blade size for the 14 inch. Does it also use the 105 inch blade? Thanks!

  25. I have a question for you. I have 5/8 inch solid steel bar could I use that and 5/8 ID bearings they have to be the 7/8 inch ID. The description says on the bearings that they are used for go carts utility vehicles etc. do you think it would work should I just go with the 7/8

  26. Hey Matthias I'm seriously considering building this bandsaw and I'm about to buy your plans; My question is, is it possible to build this out of select pine rather than spruce? Or is spruce necessary? I wouldn't buy cheap dimensional pine I'd spend a few extra bucks on the nicer stuff. Was just wondering if it mattered. I know spruce is a bit stronger than pine. Thanks!

  27. Bought the plans for this, starting the build soon. I have a stack of poplar sitting around, and I'd prefer to use that instead of having to buy the pine for it – do you foresee any problems with poplar as opposed to a softwood?

  28. Hey Matthias, I bought the plans a while ago and printed off everything. I now have a motor and bearings and enough of the rest of the hardware to give me the incentive to start the build. I chose to start making the trunnions, however, in the plans the dimensions tell me the length of the trunnion mount is 14.5 cm, but on measuring the 1 to 1 template for the trunnion mount, it measures 16.2 cm? Did I do something wrong when printing off the download?? Please speak slowly, as I'm really not very computer savvy!

  29. Thanks for a terrific video. Watching this series has shown me it's no picnic cutting logs whether you use an Alaskan mill or a horizontal bandsaw. Bandsaws tend to drift more because of the sawdust removal issues however. In the end, there's significant time spent moving very heavy (wet) logs and bending over to make adjustments.

  30. hi , is there a reason you went with solid wood over Baltic birch other then that what you had on hand,is there any issues with cabinet grade birch for your saws ,i have a lot of 34 Baltic birch ply left from my cabinet builds, probable enough to build 5 ,lol and think one of your saws would help my storage problems,lol and get a amazing tool as a bonus ,already have several motors to choose from,what rpm works best as what hp rating,,,, im sure i have one that will work , ,,,, lepage yellow glue is rated for cabinets and kids toys, 2000lbsqin glue bond, and is non toxic ,so safe around kids ,

  31. meu amigo matthias que Deus te abençoe grandemente continue assim dinamico e feliz e nos ensinando coisas maravilhosas nessa area. um grande abraço

  32. Hi I bought the plans for this saw and am in the process of building it. I was wondering how important the grain on the triangle pieces being along the hypotenuse is?

  33. Hello Matthias Wendel , I'm interested in your project , banking saw , I wonder if you sell the project or not and how much it costs if you use the Canadian dollar or the US dollar , which form of payment?

  34. Gracias Mathias por sus videos, disfruto verlos aunque a veces no traduzco muy bien pronto comprare sus planos para ensamblar un proyecto Saludos desde Colombia………

  35. Hi Matthias, I'm having a go at building your 16" Bandsaw , in the plans it says to use 25mm steel rod for the shafts. Is it O.K. to use mild steel?

  36. I followed the plans and made the flanges. The bearing id is 25 mm so I tried some 25mm pipe inside the bearing and there is a small amount of play. Not enough to fit a piece of paper inside. Is this ok or would this small amount of play cause a problem.?

  37. hey matthias. ive got an idea curious what you think. have no email for you so here it is. what do you think of the idea of an omnidirectional band saw/scroll saw? as in a band saw that has a jagged cable rather than a blade band. I think it may be worth building but wanted your thoughts before I do

  38. When you turned your wheels down like on a lathe, did you use a normal wood chisel?
    Mine digs in and bangs, quite scary. Or did you use a proper turning tool?

  39. Matthias, has the glue held up over these past few years since you built the saws? In hindsight do you wish you had screwed them as well? I really like how you build your own tools.

  40. Sorry for all the questions, but as well as the question below, how close should the wheels be to the frame when completed?

  41. I am trying to work out where the trunion support beam fits. I noticed yours fits quite close to the frame on the one side in the photos. Being as my frame is wider than yours because the wood was thicker will this cause a problem with alignment anywhere. I cannot find the exact position for this on the plans. Laterally its straight forward, but the other way I cant seem to find a dimension? Thanks Matt.

  42. Hi Mathias,(pardon my english)…
    i've seen your videos on the building of the frame for the big bandsaw, witch follows (more or less) the same design for this second bandsaw frame. i´ve noticed much improvements between the first and second designs, but i´m wondering if the first frame design has any problems that disqualifies it as a suiltable frame for a bandsaw? I´m asking that because the first frame is way much easier to build then the second one! the first it´s just a post with 2 panels, while the second is composed of many diferent parts together. I know that you have tried to avoid those specialised panels, and you have to reinforce them at some point! …but it seems to me that the first frame desgin was much cleaner and easy to build… so asking again my only question on this matter… is that anything wrong with the first frame aproach? tks

  43. I have started building the frame for the 16" band saw now.. Just wondering what size belts i should get for the motor… Or should I wait until I have the wheels and everything ready, and measure for it instead? I can't see it specified anywhere in the plans

  44. Hello mathias I really like your projects. I bought the tape saw and saw in your videos that I have separately discriminated the parts that make up the frame, but in the project I bought I did not find that part, or anything! I also bought the belt sander design, what is the size of the belt sandpaper that is used on it? I'm from Brazil and the sanders that combined that sell here are from the range, ferrari and skil, do you use sandpaper from any of them? Since the sandpaper for them is 1 meter by 9 centimeters.

  45. goodانا لا اعرف اكتب انقلش وقد اعجبني ماتقوم به من صناعة وعندي التفكير الكافي لبناء منشار مثل ذلك الذي بنيت ولكن تنقصني المقاييس الدقيقة

  46. I built a bandsaw from your plans a couple of years ago. I'm most pleased, especially since you have provided continuing support with modifications to your later models. I've acquired several commercial pieces of equipment thru the years but this bandsaw is very special to me because with your help I built it. I'm also pleased to see you offering positive encouragement to other young craftsmen on YouTube.

  47. что означает "хир!"" .часто оно звучит..СКАЖИТЕ ..ОЧ ИНТЕРЕСНО

  48. Hello Matthias. I have a stack of old 1×6 boards and most are between 30-32" long. Will those be long enough to construct the frame? Also, would gluing together several 1' boards be acceptable for the wheel mount blocks (I don't have any large, solid blocks)? I'd really like to keep from buying wood and hopefully, the plans will be the most expensive part. I believe I have everything else covered. Thanks!

  49. Hey Matthias, Which 2d CAD program do you use for the templates for your builds? Please Reply :> Thanks, HarrisonMedia.

  50. would it be OK to use different size bearings for the different wheels? I got a hold of some bearings but 2 of them are smaller than the other 2.

  51. Bom dia Mathias!Você tem sido um professor fantástico pra todos nós! Deus te abençoe.

  52. Ola Mathias. Sou admirador dos seus videos no youtube. Parabéns pelo seus trabalhos. Gostaria de saber como adquirir o projeto da serra fita 16", alem de outros projetos seus, pois a marcenaria é meu hobby e pretendo fazer uma oficina em casa. Desde já agradeço. Um abraço.

  53. Привет. Смотрю твоё видео уже 3 года. Я из Украины. Есть у вас возможность выслать пильный диск friend? В Украине нет возможности его купить.

  54. I ordered the plans for the bandsaw and when I received them they were not readable in any way. I contacted him about getting a refund. He said if I couldn’t read the plans then the problem was my fault. Can’t read what isn’t there. Matthias is a thief. Don’t buy from him.

  55. You have amazing work. This is what you need to have the mind and imagination to come up with all your products and tools. It's cool. And who are you by profession or who do you work for? What you do and show is your hobby?

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