19.11.15 – Question 8 – David Seymour to the Minister for Treaty of Waitangi Negotiations
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19.11.15 – Question 8 – David Seymour to the Minister for Treaty of Waitangi Negotiations

November 25, 2019


Mr SPEAKER: Question No 8, David Seymour. DAVID SEYMOUR (Leader—ACT) to the Minister
for Treaty of Waitangi Negotiations: Does he stand by all his statements? Hon CHRISTOPHER FINLAYSON (Minister for
Treaty of Waitangi Negotiations): Yes. David Seymour: Does he stand by
his statement of July last year, in respect of Auckland’s volcanic cones, that
there “would be no change to public access”? Hon CHRISTOPHER FINLAYSON: Yes. David Seymour: How does the Minister
reconcile his two previous answers with the knowledge that from the end
of this year people will no longer be able to drive to the tihi
of Maungawhau/Mount Eden? Hon CHRISTOPHER FINLAYSON: Quite easily,
because there will be unrestricted public access, but there are limitations
on vehicles going up there for the safety of the environment and the safety
of those going up the mountain. So there were some restrictions
put in place some years ago in relation to buses, and more recently,
as the member has noted in his question, there will be some restrictions on vehicles unless people are physically
impaired in some way. David Seymour: Is the Minister
prepared to explain to the disabled, the elderly, and those with small children
that it is acceptable for them to be required to drive up to a gate, call a council
staffer, and explain their disabilities, and if it satisfies that council staffer,
they will be given a gate code to enter— is that what he thinks is
acceptable? And has he consulted— Mr SPEAKER: Order! Just one
supplementary question allowed. Hon CHRISTOPHER FINLAYSON: Well, yes, I am
very happy to explain it to those people. These are, of course, decisions for
the authority; they are not matters of ministerial responsibility. If anyone
is upset about the proposed changes, they could write to the maunga authority,
which is made up of equal numbers of iwi representatives and Auckland Council
reps, and, I would suggest, also cc it to Mr Goff. [MEMBERS LAUGH] David Seymour: How can the public
have confidence in the Minister when he first states there will be
no changes, and then attempts to litigate the extent of the changes
he has just denied were taking place? Hon CHRISTOPHER FINLAYSON: This makes
me nostalgic for Hilary Calvert. [MEMBERS LAUGH] Quite easily, actually. These are
perfectly acceptable changes and, as I said, they are not matters
of ministerial responsibility. If anyone is upset about it, they could—
I cannot, of course, give legal advice. One could seek judicial review. Mr SPEAKER: Question No 9, Kelvin Davis. Subtitles by the Amara.org community

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