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Bench Test Flow Frame

October 10, 2019

That’s pretty full. We pulled this Flow frame
out of the hive to put it on the bench so you could see it in action, and see a close up of how it all works. Now, of course you don’t have to remove it out of the box to get the honey, we’re just doing this for a demonstration. You can see the bees have really
drawn the wax out, and completed all the cells and filled it full of honey. There’s still
a few cells here that they haven’t completed. Let’s have a closer look.
You can see the way they’ve capped it beautifully. Let’s have a look. There’s still some cells
there that haven’t been capped. You can see here they haven’t quite finished filling the
comb. They save those end cells to the last, so you get a really good idea of how full
and ready the honey is. You want it to be mostly capped before you harvest.
There’s been some questions about whether the honey’s ready, and the answer is yes.
It’s perfectly ready, just as it is in any other type of honeycomb frame. As soon as
they’ve capped it, the honey is perfectly ready.
These frames come out of the hive in much the same way as traditional honey frames,
with the hook going under here. This is a standard beehive tool. There’s a little screw
in the end here which allows us to adjust the frame so it sits really tightly up against
the other side of the box, and makes sure that observation we know at the other end
stays in line. There’s a cap that comes out at the top. That’s
where the tool goes in, and this one at the bottom, it comes out. This is where the tube
goes in. I’ve just got a short tube here, just for the purpose of demonstrating and
getting the honey to our jar. You see two slots here. Now the bottom one’s used to open
the cells and harvest the honey. You can use one tool or two. I only use two here because
they’ll work against each other and won’t tip the frame over. All I have to do is move
these down like so, and what’s happened is inside the honeycomb, the cells have split
and turned into channels for the honey to flow down and out of the hive. Let’s have
a look at that. Grab that. Looking in the honey tube. Look at that. Isn’t that absolutely
gorgeous? Beautiful honey just draining down. Wow. We can get a bit closer. Woo, there it
goes! You can see that quite quickly draining out
of the frame. Look at that honey just pouring out, that beautiful fresh honey. You notice
it’s pretty much free from wax. It just comes out pure and clean. There’s no filtering needed.
As you can see here, the dark area, that’s where the honey is still draining down. Where
it’s light, the honey’s actually all drained out already. Here you can see the capping
hasn’t actually changed. The bees are standing on top of this, and the honey just drains
out from beneath their feet. The capping hasn’t really been disturbed at all.
Over here you can see how the channels are formed inside the comb. They haven’t capped
it, but you really look at that, those zigzagging channels that guide the honey down and out
of the hive. It’s been about 10 minutes and we’ve got that much honey already. About 1.5
kilograms. We continually get the feedback from beekeepers
that it tastes like comb honey. It tastes like when you chew on fresh honeycomb, and
we think it’s because the honey’s not mixed up. They’re not mixed with all the other frames
in the hive, and the honey hasn’t been spun through the air in a centrifuge and exposed
to all that oxygen. Apparently honey loses some of it’s full flavors from oxidization.
It’s been 20 minutes and now I’ve got that much honey. You can see it, slowing down here.
Look down the tube yeah. You can see the honey’s drained out of end frame view now. A little
bit still there draining down at the end. So here, you can see how the capping hasn’t
changed at all. The bees could be standing on top of this comb surface, and hardly ever
notice anything going on. Whereas where they haven’t drawn the honeycomb cells out as far,
you can see there is a little bit of disturbance there.
We initially thought we would have to coat the whole honeycomb matrix is wax in order
to get the bees to like it, but we didn’t have to at all. You can put this straight
in, no wax coating, and the bees take to it and build all this beautiful honeycomb on
it. In fact we’ve tested, using traditional wax frames, and these, side by side in a box,
and they’ll build on these and the flow frames at the same time. It’s really quite amazing.
It doesn’t have to be either or. You can have flow frames in the middle of your box, and
then a couple of traditional wax ones either side, you can have the best of both worlds.
You can have a whole other box of traditional frames, or another box of flow frames. It
doesn’t really matter. It doesn’t have to be one or the other.
You can see how all that honey’s drained out now and the comb’s getting quite light. There’s
still a few drips, dripping from the ceiling. Gorgeous. You don’t need to leave these tools
in the whole time. Once you’ve opened the frame you can take them out and move on to
the next one. Such beautiful honey. The best time to harvest the honey is when
the bees have capped it fully. They can be standing on the comb’s surface and really
not notice much difference. If you harvest the honey early, and there’s bees down the
cells, then we’ve designed it so the bees won’t get hurt. We’ve done that, you can see
here a fresh one that’s had no wax on it yet, you can see the space we’ve left so the bees
won’t get a wing or a leg caught. To reform the honeycomb so the bees can fill
it up again. We use the top slot. It’s a matter of putting your tool in the top here, and
turning it once again. That’s it. The honeycomb is now ready for the bees to fill again. Now
another thing we’ve designed, is that if you forget, and you leave that up, we’ll just
put that up again, you can’t actually get the cap to go in. To remind you that you need
to put the comb back into the cell form position for the bees to fill with honey, we’ve made
it so you do actually have to close the cells again, and then the cap will go in.
The honey’s coming out nice and slow now. If I’m in a hurry and I don’t want to wait
any longer, I can take this tube out. We’ve designed a little point here, that means when
we put this cap in, any remaining honey will drain out of the trough and back into the
hive. Put that cap in now, and you can actually watch the bees licking up through this little
slot and they’ll clean that whole trough out just by continuing to lick the honey. That
way, there’s no honey left in the trough going fermented or candied.
Look at that big jar of honey. Isn’t that beautiful. Now the bees will notice all the
honey is drained from out of the cells. They’ll chew all that capping off in a day or two,
and be refilling it with honey again. It’s a wonderful thing.

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  1. A 'scraping tool' would be a nice addition. Where it would reach all the way to the front of the frame….and then put the scraper on the bottom of the frame….and pull it back to you….scraping out the honey that's left in the bottom of the frame.

  2. ok looks awesome. i have a question though. the honey is gone, and the caps remain. the bees remove the caps and refill. how do they remove the wax, and what do they do with it. this would not be something they are used to. do they store it somewhere, eat it, or what. blows my mind how much your getting from just one comb. cheers.

  3. What happens to the empty frame after it's been extracted without removing it from the hive? Won't the bees start building more comb right over the uncapped empty cells? How does that work for the next extraction?

  4. You must manufacture this from glass, not plastic. As a honey lover 🍯, I will not feel happy to eat honey with plastic remnants.

  5. If I was a bee I would have been really mad and never use this hive again. Why real bees are so dumb to use this hive again?

  6. El problema aquí es q cuando la abeja desepercule. No encontrará niun gramo de miel es como si estuvieses engañando ala abeja al aser creer q tienen miel. Otro problema también es q al momento de aser las revisiones sanitarias y. Intromisión de plata. Igualmente tendrías q sacar el alza. Bajar al primer piso sacar los marcos revisar. Etc. Igualmente ba pasar eso.

  7. Kann man so auch das Wachs der Bienen gewinnen? Für Kerzen oder dergleichen? Oder ausschließlich den Honig?

  8. Pity the price is more based on amateur rather than scaled up for Honey farms. Maybe Flow hive could produce a box with less bling and design the comb casings to only fit that particular box for professionals.

  9. Вместо того, чтобы носить мед, пчелы будут разгрызать крышечки 2 дня? И потом вытаскивать этот безсмысленно проподающий воск из улья. Эти крышечки сот, нужно как то срезать.

  10. I have a suggestion! Kindly know that not in all countries that honey can be found easily! therefore, you have to think of alternatives! I mean the frames you guys making ought to be adjusted according to the bees size! yes! bees in Australia, Europe and some part of the USA are different than the bees we have here in the middle east. kindly refer to me and i'll be more than happy to assist you with your inquiries. Thanks, Mohamed

  11. Do you have to clean the frame afterwards and remove the wax or not? If not, how do the bees know the closed wholes are empty?

  12. How many hours is neeed to drain it from the frames? Classical way requires minutes guys, this is in the best case a good joke, not improvement.

  13. now try this as a beekeeper with 350 frames of honey. 30 minutes a frame…. that will take forever. in other words use traditional frames… this is just a gadget

  14. Amazing! Great job! As a beekeeper in the US Virgin Islands. Gotta get with the program and place my order!

  15. I dont get how it works from inside, how the bees going to fill it again if the cons are not open ?

  16. I am trying to talk my dad into going into halves with me on purchasing a Flowhive so that we can keep bees in the side yard and get honey at the same time. I use a lot of honey between various sauces and use it as a sweetener for a lot of things over sugar and so it definitely would not go to waste! I have always been fascinated with bee keeping, but never wanted to do it the traditional way cause of how long it takes. With how much work is involved and with my schedule, I would not have the time to tend to it properly.

    I noticed in a lot of other videos on the flowhive, not just from the manufacture's channel but people who have bought a hive comment saying they want to know "cheaper" alternatives because they do not want to spend nearly 800 dollars to get started. You figure traditional hives might be cheaper in a sense, but to harvest the honey, wax and comb, you need one of those big honey extractor machines which can get expensive quick. (you can buy a 2 frame one for less than 100 but it would take a lot longer to do only 2 frames at a time vs being able to do 6-8+) but it takes forever and a lot of labor to get the honey to that point anyway going traditional. If you really want to bee keep but not spend an entire day extracting honey the traditional way, paying more upfront is the best way to go because there is less labor involved when it comes to extracting the honey and a heck of a lot less clean up.

    The design of these flow hive frames are encased in a controlled environment and really the only thing causing wear and tear on them are the bees (which do little to no damage at all to the frames) they will last a lot longer than traditional frames simply because with traditional you are man handling the frames and cutting on them and over time it will cause damage on the frames. What I love about these too is if you notice you have a strong bee population in your hive, you can easily build onto the hive with ease. I am not saying there is no labor involved with the flow hive because obviously assembling it can be tricky until you get use to it if it is being done for the first time, but then there is also caring for the bees and making sure they are set for the winter and checking to make sure they arnt infest with mites and stuff. But it is definitely time friendly, easier and kills less bees this way. And I do not know about you, but seeing the honey come out and fill out a jar is sooooo satisfying.

  17. I'm not spending $700 on one incomplete hive that I'll have to assemble that only has eight frames! And what if the queen gets past the excluder? I've been keeping bees for nine years, I can tell you that it's a mess when that happens! It's an interesting gimmick, but I would never buy one! The list of concerns with this hive is pretty hefty.

  18. Why make the bees work so hard? Can you take the wax caps off before putting it back in the hive?
    Is there an easy way to do that?

  19. 7:35 yea, but will the bees not get their legs and wings stuck when you close the cells when they are inside them working to clean them out?

  20. Thank you guys!!
    But I have a question, what about the plastic, the quatily of the honey is still the same?

  21. I saw underneath the frame there seems to be honey puddled a bit…. in the hive will this drip all over the frames below?

  22. How to clean that system? What if honey cristalyze, that wont flow anyway … But mostly im thinking about the pipe in the center of the frame. Honey is hydroscopic, it will soak with water from the air and begins to make alcohol/ferment. What ever, how to clean this? In normal frames, the bees have space to enter everything and clean it.

  23. Пчелы пережевывают крышечки после возвращения сот. Это для пчёл не вредно?

  24. How do the bees know the honey is gone, and that they need to uncap the wax caps and refill? I would think they'd just leave it because the caps are still on and wouldn't find out until winter when they needed it

  25. It IS a wonderful thing. Great invention. I know nothing about beekeeping and live in a city so there's no way I can try this. I wish I could.

  26. There's one straight question I've been working in plastics for 21 years and plastics degrade over time the structure changes either the plastic gives off fumes which might be toxic to bee's or harbour viruses a good idea but needs further research and what happens to the wax the whole point of harvesting is both honey and wax.

  27. Kudos from the Czech Republic. I'm happy to see such great and truly ingenious "Aussie-way" invention. I haven't seen all the reactions yet, but I believe there will be a bunch of traditionalists hating it (I'm missing the point why since it can be placed side by side with the classic wooden frame, it does not harm the bees at all and has other unparalleled benefits). But anyway. Again, great job making life of bees and beekeepers easier! 🙂

  28. Love your videos, I'm in South Florida and I'm new beekeeper, I want to know when is a good time to put on my honey super box?
    Can someone please help

  29. ما شاء الله تبارك الله اجمل اللحظات وقت فرز العسل ياعسل الله يوفقك

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