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Photography Tips: Full Frame & Crop Sensor Cameras

August 27, 2019


I think very often come and talk to you
about the differences between crop sensor and full frame sensor sort of professional level cameras and also to
prosummer top ends sort of beginner camera so I thought we probably have a littile chat about it
so i’ve lost people’s interest and they’ve asked lots of questions somewhere we go here well we got
kits and I like both and they’re both mine so like I really like this kit and I
really like this kit but what’s the difference well this is my old
D300 is a crop sensor camera I’ve had it for ages you can be seen
in masses and masses the film’s the its performed brilliantly why did I
buy a crop sensor camera it’s because why not? it’s kind of when first got into digital photography they weren’t really
from frame DSLR’s or any crop sensor so i already got crop sensor lenses so that’s
really what I went with I am also when I spoke to my friend Adam
Scorey whos Group Editor for our trip photography
magazines and what should I buy he said it’ll be a great camera just go buy one
just get on with it and I’m lazy i cant be bother to do research that’s really why I ended up with the
crop sensor camera and so long as the picture is a great I don’t care i’m happy so on the D 300 I’ve got my set 18 to 70 the F 5.6 zoom which is a stonking the good
little lens it has done really really well it came as part of kit a on a d70 very very inexpensive in picking up on
eBay for next to nothing these days but they’re very very good 70 -210 my old
7210 zoom now this is actually for full frame its
from thirty five-millimeter days but it’s still a stonking can lens and I’ve
you see on my digital’s for a long long time because
why go and spend more money if you don’t need to it’s a great little outfit 18 to 200
millimetres all covered deal done over here we got the D 600 body full frame sensor
more mag pixels dont know how many of you worried about it go look it up Im it
sorry doesn’t interest me enough on on the front to that about the 24-70 f2.8 Nikkor zoom an expensive piece a
glass very very nice lens next here got the
70-200 f2.8 nikkor zoom this is the and that this is
the VR it’s not the VR 2 it’s not the second
version it’s the earlier version all full frame good stuff so there are
pros and cons to this what are the pros and cons well lets start over here with a full frame
stuff first well one is by having full-frame and a wide 2.8 aperture you have got a much much shallower depth the field so
these less depth of the field why is less depth of the field good if you want to get a blurry background
really really focusing on something so that it stands and the shot less that
the field is a good thing having a bigger a sensor for more megapixels
and a better ISO performance which this has
combined with the wider apperture means it’s really great for shooting in low
light levels I can get away with much much lower light levels and still have a
nice steady shot without having to resort to flash using this outfit then I can with this
one that’s probably about it on the upside as far as I’m concerned
I’m sure there are many you view that we think we must be many more technical
reasons but many interesting what I can do with it
to achieve the pictures i want what about the pros of this set well we just said that is less depth of the field what are the pros at this is more debt
to field you got a smaller the sensor you got a little bit more that the
field going on so why is that good if it was bad somewhere else it’s not so much good and
bad but if you want more depth of the field maximum depth of the field the smaller sensor could
be easily help you achieve that tricky when you use it with
a smaller aperture you know high F number thats that one other pros of-course obviously the
one of the really big pros of this is you’re not gonna have to move it to
children in order to buy everything in a big dent in your wallet you can still go
on holiday in do stuff like that there’s not much to
choose between the two why did I upgrade because this is well well hammered and technology moves
only luddite like me has to move with that technology otherwise just get left behind you start to find the image files won’t
work in new software you can open thing to start have problems with
conflicts like that so yes time to move on and I need a camera
that wasnt in completely shag and worned out there are things about both which I like to one other thing say with the
2.8 lens just what im saying you get a very shallow depth the failed I have to make this film as quickly as
possible because lorna is sitting over there filming me a back is hurting the happens to all camera
operators doesn’t it lorna she got a very very stern look on her face and
look at the size of this of this cake ever seen such a whopper lorna wants
to eat it with her coffee and and im gonna have some too
but first let me just show you what I mean so let’s say I wanna let me just
compare briefly and the difference between the
lens is not going to which takes about a picture we will be done a film about
that will you get a better picture out before a half thousand pounds camera lens
and you will have a you know cheapy old cluncker we made that
film there’s a link under in the text below an on screen at the moment if you wanna
go check it out so I’m not going into that territory let’s say I was gonna take a little
close up shot like the colorful cups on like the to the cake let’s say I want to do
something like that so lets start with the shorter lengths let’s just
stick it about 50 millimetres let’s say i wanna take a shot I wanna get like the
edge of this cup no lets say I wanna go yea edge of the cup shot in the stuff
behind soft so lets just see what i can do now if we get in here and I
can focus in back here and I F 2.8 and and I got the phone on the coffee shop and
pretty much everything else is soft got lovely kind of soft thing
well happens if we try the same thing using the crop sensor and the consumer
lens do the same thing about 70 millimetres here i was using f2.8 because I got a
wider aperture this camera I’m using 5.6 on here sorry I’m not using I am 5.6 let’s see what happens can i still focus
at the same distance now smaller sensor making the lens seem a
bit longer so to move back a bit here we go im gonna do this one level not gonna tilt the
camera so you can see the two shots I wanna bit closer focus focus I think that is roughly shot I took just have a
quick look yeah very similar shots you can see
when you compare them there’s a slight softer background using the D 600 there
is but the D300 shots are very very similar its
kind of like is the extra price worth it what happens
we put a longer lens on lets just see what happens because there’s
a downside to the full frame in my opinion lets just put our 70 to
200 on and the’re not thanking me as I actually made the
move they’re such nice people i said im sorry we about to start filming they’re thanking the cafe now put that on there forgive me guys something which a lot of photographers I noticed do is a very very anti changing lenses to
get shots that sometimes you gotta change lens to get the shot that you want dont be
lazy if you need to change lens to get something just get on and do it look it didnt take that
long did it ive just change two lenses on two different cameras lets have a go to the same sort of shot let’s see if we can get a fairly close with the coffee in the cake and all the
rest a bit first of use the long lens now this to me is a big downside
sometimes I can’t is difficult to focus them because
things are really really soft when you’re using 2.8 let me just see now I wanna get
a nice close shot already I can’t focus there I can get close enough to compose the
shot I want i dont want that in it so im moving it so gonna come back here where can I be to focus I gotta come all the way back
here before I can focus the camera in the place I want it I got that
focused still not focusing can be tricky there we go let’s give it
a shot there it looks very very similar to the shot I just took with the other
lens didnt it ? but that’s not the shot i want the shot on I want I
can achieve with this camera because this one will let me focus in a lot
lot closer lets tilt the other way so that
you can see I’m not cheating I’m gonna change the
angle we’re gonna go coffee cup to coffee cup the bit of cake in the corner maybe here we go let’s go a bit higher look you look how much closer in I can focus I’m not gonna tilt it i aint
gonna tilt it again because the shot looks horrid if i do now I can
fill the frame with the cup and this lens will focus in
closer so it’s a case of weighing up the cost
and what it’s worth to you image files colors things like that you
can have a better colors your gonna have nicer quality image files out have the more
expensive camera but I didn’t notice the difference if you pictures just look how online or
something like that tiny different email may not notice a if we compare Cup with
ease on screen now I dont know if in the video you can see the
difference between the consumer pro-sumer camera and the
expensive camera lens if you wanna check it out go to my
website link on screen and in the text below the video you can go and download
these files look at them yourself so you can kind of
compare them but the expensive camera that will be nicer colors you will get better image quality in
shot in its extremities like very small aperture is in very long focal lengths with the expensive a
kid that’s what you’re paying for but is it gonna be enough difference to
justify the cost as I say we got what three and a half thousand pounds I guess hear
something like that possibly more depending when you’re
buying new or second-hand versus about seven hundred and fifty quid going on here I’m not saying one’s bad because I’m always talking about using
the cheaper kit I’m not saying it’s bad bad and wrong its its is is is not a good thing to buy
expensive stuff I’m just saying don’t sell your soul to the devil to buy it because you’re better off to upgrade the
photographer and understand how to use the tools that you have than to go rushing often buy something
more expensive invest thousands of pounds cause you may be disappointed because you can
see there’s inst a huge difference between images taken by either of those
I just I want to touch on so the say guys you can download these image files
yourself go and have a look and this is Jpegs and I’m leaving
them at full size full resolution so you can sorta see the size difference
the pixels make et cetera hope that was a value to you
I know its a bit wofly but that’s cause i wanna eat some cake taken some
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  1. Download the samples and view then on what? Even a 4k monitor is only 3840 x 2160 (and my £79 compact makes 20mp @ 5152 x 3864 lol) so unless i zoom x 100 it looks the same. 🙂

  2. I own a Nikon D3200 (very starter entry DSLR right?). As long as i got the result that i wanted, its best for me… But, because i also wanted something lighter for street, travel, point and shoot, i bought also a bridge camera the Fuji X30 with a 2/3" sensor, 12Mpixels and an f 2-2.8 built in lens.

    Ok D3200 produces a little better images because of bigger sensor than the X30, but X30 gives me descent results on every pc screen, even on an A4 glossy paper (On 10x15cm there's no difference between D3200 and the X30 in quality).

    The major difference i noticed is on the high ISO values. D3200 produces descent pictures with little grain from 1600 to 3200 ISO. X30 gives the same results between 800 and 1600. Above 1600 there is grain, above 3200 its a problem.

    But hey!!!!! Its a 2/3" sensor. I dont expect anything better…

    About full frame sensors, i think are for professionals that can afford the high prices and they demand best results for their work. Maybe someday i will move to full frame, possibly when i will make money from photography. For now i consider to buy a film SLR camera (here in Greece you can find some very good used models in very low price) istead of a full frame DSLR.

    Thanks for the videos Mike… I hope i helped!

  3. Then there's CCD versus CMOS, or well, back in the day lol… D200 is the last CCD Nikon made and for portrait with 50mm 1.8, the colours are brilliant

  4. Mike I'm using Nikon 50mm in a crop sensor camera and the quality is fabulous…The bokeh is amazing…I don't have the money to buy a good camera but I'm investing in good lenses that will follow me to the next camera!Great video…Upload more please

  5. I love that phrase at 10.55 "upgrade the photographer". For me as an intermediate level photographer on a budget that sums it up perfectly. Nice to have gucci kit but I'm finding that skill is the better acquisition. Great work as always Mike 🙂

  6. My choice was to sit on my bum & watching television or get a crop sensor kit with two kit lenses + a 50 mm 1.8 prime, two speedlights, a couple umbrellas & reflectors and a home made background support. There simply is not enough in my 'hobby' budget for a full sensor or mirrorless camera. So I can go cheap or go without.

  7. very detail … thk u
    i love how u did not cut n went 1 take n showed the different images
    enjoy ur cake

    sub from me

  8. Hi Mike I love your videos…You are a fantastic teacher. Ive got a question. I just bought a nikon D750 and would love to buy a zoom for it but find the newer nikon 24 70 and 70 200 much too heavy for me. im using primes now and love them but would love to have a zoom like your 70 to 210 which seems much lighter. Is the one you are using for a FX camera?

  9. Thanks again Mike. I believe the shortest way of summarizing your video is "Are you getting the best bang for your buck." It seems that the increase in the tech of the camera doesn't necessarily match the increase of the camera price. You are one of the first professional photographers I've viewed that doesn't promote higher end camera for it's own sake.

  10. I'm a bit confused, I have an APS C sensor so cropfactor 1.6. I am getting into street photography and everybody uses a 50mm there, but because of the crop factor, should I get a 35mm for the same effect as a fullframe camera with a 50mm? =)

  11. did that coffee turned cold? ^_^
    by the way thanks for the tips. is it okay to use a full frame lens in a crop censor?

  12. What is the name of that pastry/cake? Look delicious! Thanks Mike, your videos drew me into photography years ago. I would have never became interested in it without your videos. I think it was your Lee Big Stopper video that hooked me. Thanks again!

  13. But Mike, what is the name of that pastry? I don't think we have things like that over here and I'd like to get one somehow.

  14. Yet another video I cannot Like enough! 🙂 Thanks! I read that it's a bit harder to get sharpness/top quality pics on a FF camera, is that true? Something like it requires a little bit more skill or better techniques because the pixel density is less forgiving than a DX camera. Dunno – frankly I went with DX because the body is smaller and I like to have my camera with me all the time. I think FF is for those who create billboard size prints 🙂

  15. Hi Mike! So thinking of upgrading to D750 from my D3200. Before buying I wanted to check the D750 shutter count (just to be sure) and it showed 350 and the retailer said it underwent final testing back in the factory so that's why it showed 300+ shutter count. Nothing to be worried about…Also, after that I took pictures with both the cameras under same settings + lens + same object but my current D3200 looks much sharper at 100% Zoom than D750…Is it just this D750 or is that how D750 is?? I'm now really really worried 🙁 any advice?

    Also if there are any D750 users, please help me out? Thanks.

  16. f5.6 and f2.8 is comparable? Of course that bokeh is better in f2.8…. I understand that full frame if better in bokeh, but this example show different mainly in lenses …

  17. thanks for the video….information and fun as well….did you like the cold coffee ? regards from switzerland…fotowalo.ch 🙂

  18. Thanks for the detailed comparison….especially the idea of not stretching oneself in terms of money if you don't need a much fancier camera..

  19. Thanks for the video but f5.6 and f2.8 would give you a different depth of field regardless of the camera. It would have been more comparable if both were shot at f2.8 or f5.6.

  20. My 1st DSLR was a Nikon D70. I loved it, but eventually — as you put it — …well, you are just not going to be functional with a 6 mpxl camera. Then I moved to a Fuji X-100 mirrorless. I still use that for street work. Terrific. Fixed prime 23mm lens almost as sharp as anything I have ever used Then a Nikon D5300 crop sensor, 24 mpxl. It is a great camera. I still use it. But my D810 is soooo much better than any of them! A monster. It is just a completely different world. Of course for what I paid for it and the glass, it should have come with a kitchen and bath and garage, but … there it is.

  21. Mike, so thankful to have found your channel. I'm now a subscriber. Awesome info you're sharing. I really want an FX body, but for now I've decided to stay on the DX path until I make enough $ with photography to get into an FX setup. I shoot Canon and recently picked up the 10-18mm EF-S lens for some interior photo work. I'm running into issues where walls aren't straight, etc. I know it's common with WA lenses, but may be exaggerated with the DX??? Do you have suggestions that can minimize the effect? I've been told it's better to go wider than what I need so it leaves room to adjust perspective/crop. I know you shot interiors with your D300 and I think you may have also used a 10-18mm type lens??? Any suggestions for potentially applying a certain technique to minimize post work would be appreciated. Ken

  22. The sensor doesn't change DOF. It only crops the frame. Take the same shots with the same lens on the two bodies and you will get the same results. One will have a crop and one won't. And there are a lot of pros shooting on DX. It isn't just a consumer format.

  23. Are you saying that an F/2.8 on your FF has shallower DoF than an F/2 on that crop body? Or that you can get away with lower light levels on FF f/2.8 than crop f/2?

    I think what you mean is that with a big honking lens you get shallow DoF and can use lower light levels than with a small lens. This has absolutely nothing to do with the sensor size as such!

  24. Are you saying that you are unable to find the aperture setting to make that big lens' DoF equivalent to that smaller lens? Seriously?

  25. what lens are that for that d3000?
    i heard it, but english is not my natal language,

    Greetings from el salvador.

  26. Good attempt to compare between the two, but it is such an unfair comparison. Trying using the same lens at the same aperture and it will give people a clear idea of the difference between crop and full frame. Also, the Nikon D300 is not a "cheaper" camera. In fact, the D300 is a more professional camera than the D600 since professionals used them in the field for sport and action photography.

  27. Watching you fumble around with those huge lenses and listening to cams struggle to get focus is just one of the reasons i moved from slr to OMD m4/3…. never been happier and i wont be moving back ….

  28. To everyone that is interested to see the difference between pictures taken in full frame vs Crop mode, I strongly recommend the following YouTube video; “Pentax K1 Full Frame vs Crop modes test”.

  29. highly appreciate this explanation with real live demonstration. just 1 small downside, which is a plus at the same time: the seducing, and thus distracting coffee and cake 🙂

  30. Ye i struggle with my crop sensor Canon 450D as i live in Britain and we mostly have overcast weather so i struggle for good light.

  31. Seems I want even more wide angle now after shooting FF and 24-70 or 24-240 etc. Now looking into 12-24 or 17mm.

  32. When pixel peeping over the years it’s the latitude (details in darks and Light areas) where I’ve seen the most advancement upgrading. From the D50 to the D300, then a major improvement D300 to FF D700. I then got a D4 and took shots side by side and again a major improvement from D700 to D4. But my biggest jump in image quality was D4 to A7Rii. 16mp to 42.2 sure helped but again way more usable shots in low light or harsh daylight. Way more latitude.

  33. Thank you for your sensible view on equipment and I heard you say many times it what you do with camera that really matters

  34. Nice job, this is the info I have been looking for.D300 let's hear it for the BEST all around camera so far.Mine has made me a far better shooter, I think its the confidence the camera gives me.Now to get the answers to RAW or JPEG?? any thoughts​?

  35. The kid at 7:28 cracks me up. I wish your comparison would show some photos where the full frame succeeds while the crop sensor fails to really capture the shot. I'd like to know what I can't do now that I could do if I went to full frame.

  36. Not sure, if I am right, but I think the crop sensor photos seems to have more grains or noise when I downloaded and looked at the photos. Logically its just a cropped version of a full size image but I think the sensor size matters to get more quality noise free pics.

  37. I want to buy a camera for wedding and street. Which one will better Fuji XT20 vs XE3 vs Sony a6300 vs Nikon D7200..
    please help

  38. Why is it that 35mm is the standard for professional DSLR? Who decided this? Full Frame is tiny. I shoot with a medium format. Medium format should be the baseline in photography, not the tiny 35mm. apsc and full frame are almost the same size when you compare them to Full Frame.

  39. Alan…… Isn't the truth that the majority of amateur photographers don't gain anything by having a full frame camera ?
    They are good for studio work and landscapes, but have no real advantage over a crop sensor camera for they type of photography they do…. I don't consider going from a crop to full frame is an upgrade. It's more of a sideways move to
    make you think you are more of a professional.

  40. Nice reminder seems insect shooters may like full frame interaction and foodies would appreciate crop sensor to feel closer to subject.

  41. It's the law of diminishing returns; applies in many cases. The more you spend the less you get. Whether the difference is worth paying for is your choice.
    Wine is a good example as is hifi.

  42. (Alan) ….So many think that using a full frame camera makes them more like a professional photographer. When in most instances it makes no difference at all.

  43. Super, thanks Mike. having now purchased both full frame (D800) and crop (D5500 and D3300) would agree with all your points.

  44. I know this video is a bit old now, but I'm going to ask anyway..

    I do vary the types of photography I do, as I love learning about different aspects of photography – from high speed vehicles, to landscapes and sunset, to portrait, low light and even astro-photography on occasion..

    I am interested in getting a full frame camera as a 1 off purchase..

    The 2 I am trying to decide on is canon eos 6d and sony a7r iii.

    The Canon is half the price of the Sony and I believe the lenses are cheaper, with more available..

    The Sony is mirorless and has much higher specs, more future proof?

    I am keen on the Sony, despite its price, but I was wondering your take on it – if you have one?

  45. Mike, a new subscriber here – these videos are excellent. I love how your videos don't have long flashy intros, a lesson for all youtubers!

  46. Expensive is nice, but not so good if you can't take a decent photo, but cheaper is better if you can understand the way to get the best photo from it…

  47. I own a Nikon D7100 and an 810. I was going to sell the D7100 when I got the 810 but I can't bear to part with it as it is such a good camera.

  48. Loving your videos Mike. Think I've discovered my new favourite phtography channel here on you tube. Really like the content you produce and your presentation is fantastic. All the best to you.

  49. 2018 Prosumer = DX + FF. If you have the money then the answer is YES, buy the FF camera. There is a significant differenct between FF and some DX cameras – and the lenses are significantly different, too – especially when using a Pro lens and body vs a cheap lens and body. The D300 is a flagship of Nikon's and has good color rendition (due to photo sites being larger) However, if you compared the D7100 with the D600 you'd see a difference because the photo sites are tiny and the 24 megapixels are too much. A D700 with 12.1MP will produce a superior picture (with less megapixels) than the D7100 with 24MP, because the photo sites are much larger. Even a Pro lens on a D7100 will not compare to a Prosumer lens on a D700 – it's how gear should be evaluated apart from the gimmicks added.

  50. Hi Mike, I don’t know if you know my photography teacher Laura Hoffman in California. But she knows you and we watch your videos all the time. I love this one. I’m on my third beginning class LOL and having a hard time grasping concepts, but getting better all the time. Tomorrow’s homework is fill the frame, so I’m going to the streets of my Beach Village in San Clemente CA today to practice your techniques. Thank you again so much, Deborah

  51. Oh my lenses are: DX VR 16-85 3.5-5.6G ED, DX VR 16-105 3.5-5.6G ED and a DX VR 16-55 3.5-5.6G II. I will be doing photographs of my adult grandchildren as models for my online bridal hair accessories store. Both in studio and outside at parks with greenery etc. etc. I’m pretty sure I need a different lens, like 2.8? Or even another one to get closer. Any suggestions you might have would be much appreciated. Thank you again, Deborah

  52. Nice to see you again Mike.
    Lets face it, the reason most of us go Crop Sensor is price.
    Most people buy a DSLR because they want to take better photos than with a phone , and or maybe they had an old film camera.
    I bought a Nikon D40 years ago, then a D5500 (both crop sensors) there is no way I can afford a full frame camera, with some lenses, at my age.
    And I could not justify it, as I take so few photos.
    So its really only those wanting to become professional, or those with cash to burn that will buy full frame.
    (I just wish I could get some bokeh with my gear) I'll have to keep trying, upgrading the photographer.

  53. Just found this video, now 3 years later the buzz seems to be "Why I swapped from Full Frame down to micro 4/3/rds." Every second video or blog on Youtube, has this title. Surely the difference you pointed out, will be much more so with an even smaller sensor!

  54. Could you please give a little more info for the 70-210( film lens) in order to know whats what, particularly when trying to buy. As always good video

  55. I keep seeing too many comparisons of "bokeh". Much better if both images used a very small aperture to keep far more in focus so we can better judge the noise, sharpness and color. Your images all had different points of focus so it was difficult to get an accurate comparison.

  56. Once you're cured from the typical newbie GAS (Gear Acquisition Syndrome) and start concentrating on composition skills your photography will improve a leaps and bounds.

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