Hey, if the people want it of course it will go! Hey! You cannot prevent this! Hey! You cannot forcefully keep it in the hands of the people! You cannot keep it in spite of the people! And what is this secularism for God’s sake? You ask them to explain it — they can’t! Sir, they say, it changes in context. What the heck kind of thing is it then? Look here! Every concept has a description in the dictionary. And every concept is required to have a precise meaning, so that each and every concept can find what? It’s place! But, the Minister of Internal Affairs comes up and says, the state can interfere with religion – uh, why don’t you say the rest? He doesn’t say religion can interfere with the state. Yesterday I was at Boğaziçi University. The youth there must have been under the influence of the place, they got up and used exactly this expression: Uhh… Honorable Mayor, what do you think about secularism? What is to come? There are worries that secularism is in danger. What’s going to happen? I said this to the young friends: Hey, the Westerner says: “Render unto Caesar what’s his, and unto God what’s Gods” But this country’s Minister of Internal Affairs say, “Cesar has rights, God doesn’t!” Even though, this country’s population is 99 percent Muslim! One cannot be both Muslim and secular! You can either be a Muslim or a secular! If you try to put the two together, it will have a reverse magnetic effect, it’s impossible to keep the two together! Since this is the case, one cannot claim to be a Muslim, then turn around and claim to be secular at the same time! Because God; the creator of the Muslim, holds absolute dominance! “Sovereignty belongs absolutely to the people” Look! A lie! A big fat lie! We made a proposal to their “constitution-eers”: we said, let’s open up a parenthesis next to the “Sovereignty belongs unconditionally to the people” article. For what? they asked. I said, we’re going to write in it “Only once every five years” They started laughing when I said that. I said, hey why are you laughing? Do the people have any such power outside of every five years? They paused, looked at each other and said, “Oh, we see, we suppose they don’t.” Yes, Who was this? You know the one, the mugger thief, that’s who! Where is he saying this? The year is 1985, In Marmara Hotel! We are having a meeting about the constitution, that’s where he is saying this. And when I said this to him, this time he got up and said, that is not doable. Just in that moment the former treasurer Vural Arıkan, shows up drunk off his mind, cannot even stand up, he is also giving advise. I said, “I’m afraid you have prepared this constitution on the same table” Why? The men do not write it on a sober head; they write it when they’re drunk. And that’s why their constitution cannot even last two years, it turns to Swiss cheese on the third year. And at this moment, the constitution is full of holes. It’s a mended rag all over. Look at what they’re saying now. The other day journalists were asking: “What do you think about this matter?” “Sovereignty belongs absolutely to the people” Look, think carefully right there; When is it the peoples’? When they’re heading to the polls. But, in material and in spiritual, sovereignty belongs absolutely to God!