UK Intel Agencies Frame ‘Spygate’ Involvement Ahead of Trump’s Declassification
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UK Intel Agencies Frame ‘Spygate’ Involvement Ahead of Trump’s Declassification

September 22, 2019


Hello and welcome I’m Gina Shakespeare. Today on the show, big story: The Intelligence
Agencies from the U.K are framing their Spygate involvement ahead of Trump’s declassification. This story by Epoch Times contributor Jeff
Carlson. Yes, that’s right the Telegraph published
two separate articles detailing their version of when the heads of UK intelligence were
briefed about the contents of former MI6 agent Christopher Steele’s dossier of claims about
President Donald Trump’s ties to Russia. The articles appear to be an attempt on the
part of UK intelligence agencies to get in front of the pending declassification of documents
by Trump. So, what’s being said? Well, according to The Telegraph, the UK spy
chiefs were briefed before Trump was made aware of their existence by former FBI Director
James Comey, but notably after the 2016 presidential election had taken place. The Telegraph article goes to significant
lengths to make two separate points: that UK intelligence heads were briefed on Steele’s
information only after the 2016 presidential election had concluded, and that May was never
directly informed of the dossier’s existence. Interestingly, the article points out that
the prime minister “may have known Mr. Steele” from the UK’s inquiry into the poisoning
death of Alexander Litvinenko, when May was home secretary. The Telegraph also noted the involvement of
Charles Farr, the former chairman of Britain’s Joint Intelligence Committee (JIC). The role of the JIC is to “assess events
and situations relating to external affairs, defence, terrorism [and] major international
criminal activity.” The JIC is also responsible for the “liaison
with Commonwealth and foreign intelligence organisations.” The Telegraph reported that Steele met with
Farr on two separate occasions to inform him of the events and information contained within
his dossier. The two men, both former MI6 agents, had known
each other for decades. The first meeting was reported as being one
week after the 2016 presidential election in mid-November 2016. According to The Telegraph article, by the
end of his first meeting with Steele, Farr had decided that the allegations within the
Steele dossier “had to go up the chain of command.” The article also referenced a second meeting
with Farr in late November 2016, approximately 10 days after the alleged date of their first
meeting. The two men met again for follow-up questioning
and to discuss the addition of two new memos written by Steele, one of which reportedly
detailed “how the Russians were allegedly trying to block Mitt Romney’s possible appointment
as US secretary of state.” It was around this time that the heads of
MI6 and MI5 were allegedly briefed on the dossier. So there are certainly a few questions to
be asked since the release of the Telegraph articles. The reference to “the addition of two new
memos” is of material note. The known Steele dossier contains 17 individual
memos—including one final memo written in December 2016 for late U.S. Sen. John McCain. However, no memos were written in November
2016. In UK court documents, Steele himself stated
that he produced no memos during November. In the UK court documents, Steele notes that
in addition to McCain, he gave a copy of the December memo to a “senior UK government
national security official acting in his official capacity, on a confidential basis in hard
copy form.” Although there were no known memos created
in November, Steele did produce three separate memos in October 2016—on Oct. 12, 18, and
19. If there are two November memos, as referenced
in The Telegraph’s article, they weren’t disclosed to the UK court and appear to directly oppose
Steele’s written court testimony and responses. Let’s consider the Timing of Steele’s
Meeting With Farr. The Telegraph went to great lengths in its
articles to make the point that the meeting between Steele and Farr occurred post-election. It’s unclear, however, whether that is truly
the case. Notably, on Oct. 11, 2016, Steele met with
Kathleen Kavalec, then-deputy assistant secretary of state for European and Eurasian affairs,
just 10 days prior to the FBI obtaining a FISA warrant on Trump campaign adviser Carter
Page on Oct. 21, 2016. Also present at this meeting was Tatyana Duran,
who was referenced as being with Steele’s firm Orbis Security. The meeting was likely brokered by Jonathan
Winer, a former deputy assistant secretary of state for international law enforcement
and former special envoy for Libya, whom Steele had known since at least 2010. Notes taken by Kalevec of the meeting, of
which a redacted version was made public earlier in May, show that Steele provided her with
a full rundown of the unverified information compiled in his dossier to that date. Also included in her notes from the Steele
meeting are several references to London and the words “Multi-lat JIC.” JIC may be a direct reference made by Steele
to the Joint Intelligence Committee and possibly his meeting with its chairman, Farr. If so, this timing would align with the known
Steele memos and would place Steele’s meeting with Farr in October 2016—one month before
the presidential election. Let’s look into Other UK Officials Steele
Met With Before the Election Steele also held meetings with at least two
other UK officials, specifically former MI6 head Richard Dearlove, who is also Steele’s
former boss, and Andrew Wood, the former British ambassador to Russia. According to a Feb. 6, 2018, article by The
Washington Post, Dearlove and Steele met in the “early fall” of 2016, and Dearlove
advised Steele and his partner, Chris Burrows, to work with a “top British government official”
to pass along information to the FBI. Although the identity of the official isn’t
known, it’s possible that Farr is the one being referenced. This meeting with Dearlove was almost certainly
prior to the election and may have even taken place before Steele’s briefing to an FBI
team in Rome in late September 2016. Dearlove later stated that he didn’t know
whether Steele had approached the FBI at the time of their meeting. Steele also had a pre-election meeting with
Wood, at which the dossier was specifically discussed. Steele and Wood would meet again in mid-November
2016, leading to Wood notifying McCain of the dossier’s existence. Although the Telegraph article portrays the
involvement of senior UK intelligence officials as occurring after the 2016 presidential election,
this is an incomplete picture of actual events as UK intelligence actions appear to have
begun much earlier. Luke Harding, a journalist for The Guardian,
had previously reported on the early involvement of UK Intelligence, noting that Britain’s
Government Communications Headquarters (GCHQ) was engaged in collecting information and
transmitting it to the United States beginning in late 2015. Additionally, in the summer of 2016, Robert
Hannigan, then-head of Britain’s GCHQ, traveled to Washington to personally meet with then-CIA
Director John Brennan. The meeting was especially unusual, given
the fact that Hannigan’s U.S. counterpart was then-National Security Agency Director
Mike Rogers, not Brennan. Hannigan would suddenly resign as head of
the GCHQ on Jan. 23, 2017, just days following Trump’s inauguration. The Guardian later reported on speculation
that Hannigan’s resignation was directly related to UK intelligence sharing. Brennan appears to have used the foreign intelligence
to launch an interagency investigation of the Trump campaign. The BBC reported that Brennan’s involvement
may have gone back to April 2016. Brennan repeatedly testified to Congress that
any information he had regarding the Trump campaign was passed to the FBI. Brennan also admitted that it was his intelligence
that helped establish the FBI investigation: “I was aware of intelligence and information
about contacts between Russian officials and U.S. persons that raised concerns in my mind
about whether or not those individuals were cooperating with the Russians, either in a
witting or unwitting fashion, and it served as the basis for the FBI investigation to
determine whether such collusion [or] cooperation occurred.” On Sept. 17, 2018, President Trump issued
an order for the immediate declassification of three series of documents related to the
Russia investigation and the spying on his presidential campaign. The first set of documents related to the
FISA warrant application to spy on Trump campaign adviser Carter Page. The second set of documents related to a series
of FBI interviews with former Associate Deputy Attorney General Bruce Ohr. The third set of documents encompassed all
FBI reports of interviews prepared in connection with the Page FISA applications. In addition to issuing the declassification
order, Trump directed the Department of Justice and the FBI to publicly release all text messages
relating to the Russia investigation from former FBI Director James Comey, former Deputy
FBI Director Andrew McCabe, former lead FBI agent on the Russia investigation Peter Strzok,
former FBI lawyer Lisa Page, and Ohr. On Sept. 20, 2018, the president hinted at
the reaction from foreign allies in response to his declassification order during a live
interview with Sean Hannity while at a rally in Las Vegas. Hannity asked the president about the pending
release of declassified documents. Here is how the president responded: “Well, we’re moving along, we’re working
along. We’re also dealing with foreign countries
that do have a problem. I must tell you. I got called today from two very good allies
saying, ‘Please, can we talk.’ So, it’s not as simple as all that. And we do have to respect their wishes. But it will all come out.” Any information subject to declassification
that pertains to foreign intelligence—or to the allies themselves—would almost certainly
result in high-level discussions. In this particular case, it would appear these
discussions were of such concern that they resulted in phone calls from two allies at
levels high enough to reach Trump directly. These phone calls were telling, and likely
came from the UK and Australia, confirming their involvement in the events leading to
the establishment of the FBI’s counterintelligence investigation. Exactly what details were discussed during
the phone calls remains unknown. The following morning, on Sept. 21, Trump
sent out a series of tweets on the subject, indicating a delay in the declassification
of the documents: “I met with the DOJ concerning the declassification
of various UNREDACTED documents. They agreed to release them but stated that
so doing may have a perceived negative impact on the Russia probe. Also, key Allies’ called to ask not to release. Therefore, the Inspector General….. “….has been asked to review these documents
on an expedited basis. I believe he will move quickly on this (and
hopefully other things which he is looking at). In the end I can always declassify if it proves
necessary. Speed is very important to me – and everyone!” Trump raised the prospect of declassification
again on April 25, telling Hannity in an interview, “Yes. Everything is going to be declassified and
more, much more than what you just mentioned. It will all be declassified.” In a May 2 interview with Catherine Herridge
of Fox News, Trump addressed the pending declassification a second time: Ms. Herridge: “Is there a timeline on when
the public will see these Russia records declassified?” Mr. Trump: “Yes, I’m going to be allowing
declassification pretty soon. I didn’t want to do it originally because
I wanted to wait, because I know what they—you know I’ve seen the way they play. They play very dirty. So I decided to do it, and I’m going to
be doing it very soon, far more than you would have even thought.” Ms. Herridge: “May, June, July?” Mr. Trump: “No, soon. I mean whenever they need it. Whenever they need it, I’ll be doing it. But I will be declassifying it. Everything.” It remains unclear if the president is referring
to investigators such as DOJ Inspector General Michael Horowitz, with his “whenever they
need it” reference. Meanwhile, the Telegraph articles appear to
be an attempt on the part of UK intelligence agencies to get in front of the pending declassification
of documents by Trump. But the story presented is an incomplete one
at best. Thank you very much for joining me on this
episode of Declassified. Do leave your comments below, and until next
time, take care.

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  1. yep seems something else brewing too just hot off the press in nz … is nz trying to distance itself from the uk … https://www.nzherald.co.nz/lifestyle/news/article.cfm?c_id=6&objectid=12234400

  2. Clinton's have pull in the
    UK ….and none of them want to be around when this goes down
    Kilary will start murdering people

  3. The same families at the top of the Globalist NWO Banking Cartel Empire are the same we fought a Revolution against in the USA.
    The Royals seek a world empire and couldn't care less about The UK. In fact, less Englishmen, Irishmen, Scotsmen, Welshmen, etc…is EXACTLY what they want…the ELITES are ANTICHRIST.
    London is the Banking Capital of the world and ground zero for the NWO Satanic Cabal.
    The Queen sits atop that Pyramid…and her position is far from "ceremonial."
    The Royals escape blame brilliantly…HOWEVER…
    Almighty God is not to be displaced…Our Savior, Jesus Christ, is the Living Word.

  4. Brennan is an anti Trump activist who was out to leverage his position of power to try to impact an election. What a dirt bag !!

  5. It's great having real, just the facts not spin news and journalists who are not Pravda propagandists. Epoch Times is all that.

  6. Great reporting! An act of war lays before us! Put the spotlight on all these bad actors that somehow thought it was ok to sabotage our entire country and we the people’s will! This is going to grow!

  7. Spygate probably goes right back to the U N and the NEW WORLD ORDER. Soros, U K Prime Minister, M I. 6 ,

  8. The UK is destroying their own country and the people in it. They like so many other treasonous traitors thought crooked hellary would win. England jumped ahead of the gun and look what happened to a once beautiful country. It's time North America start mobilizing and start deportation of Muslims before every state looks like England, Sweden and just about every other country that was conned into thinking muslim inbreeds are good for their country.

  9. Just redact everything that mentions information from another country. They were pawns of the DoJ and FBI acting in good faith. No reason to have any tension between long-standing allies.

  10. The main question is how many sheepeople are out there and how will they react to the truth. Which has been sparsely distributed as of late.

  11. The Brits were behind the Steele dossier, i.e. the Queen's Privy Council, so it's total nonsense that they were briefed on it. They knew about it from the beginning. This is pure spin, just as the traitors in the justice department are trying to frame the coup as an "investigation"

  12. Just more examples of the consequences of being associated, in any way, with the Clintons.
    Looks like the powers of the CIA set up an operation out of the country .i.e FISA, to accomplish what the senior FBI officials couldn’t accomplish within the country.
    Sort of “outsourcing” the conspiracy to take down our duly elected POTUS.
    So, leaders of some other countries may regret having ever heard of the Clintons – or, even, Barack Obama, for that matter.
    While leaders of other countries are, well, aware of this conflict in the U.S. and it weakens our position to negotiate or deal with them.
    We can thank Hillary and the Dems for that.
    That is why it is crucial to expose the corruption and resolve the 2016 election issue before 2020.

    🇺🇸☦️

  13. The dossier wouldn't have been credible so what did they do arrange a Russian meeting with Trumps son. This is how the obstruction came about.

  14. Lots of comments on here. The investigation was warranted. The contacts and ties to a foreign power/made it necessary. If it is true Russia intervened against Romney's possible appointment as secretary of state then you might have to ask who is running the w.h.? Tillerson was appointed. Someone Trump didn't know but Putin did know tillerson. Trump has been laundering Russian money well over a decade. Tommy Becker's comment

  15. There is fear on the menu I think UK intelligence agencies may have been caught out with political bias the truth will out.

  16. Hopefully we will find out who the mysterious Joseph Mifsud is, who has conveniently gone missing since Dec 2017. May find out that it was Steele and MI6 who set up/staged the Papadopoulos meeting in Rome (out of nowhere). So the 2 elements to start the spying (Papaopoulos meeting and Steele's Dossier) all point to MI6. Misfud likely has ties to MI6 and possibly was an FBI informat

  17. Dear Gina Shakespeare, Pleas do an in depth expose on THE COUNCIL ON FOREIGN RELATIONS about it's origins and the CFR original name . I am begging EPOCH times to show the British Control of the CFR and the connection between the CFR and JOHN BOLTON'S longtime involvement in it. I believe that JOHN BOLTON is a spy for the British and a heinous WAR MONGER. Why Donald Trump has JOHN BOLTON in his cabinet is shocking. The CFR is THE DEEP STATE and should be banned from our country.
    Please dig into this. I believe the American public will be shocked by who and what the CFR is.
    If there is one reason that gives me pause about Trump it's JOHN BOLTON.

  18. If people were following the Qanon movement most would have learned of this months ago. So it's crazy how far behind the news is on actually reporting on this and frankly everything that has to do with President Trump and Spygate. WWG1WGA

  19. Refreshing to find news not political rhetoric, thank you. hopefully with declassification the true degenerative political landscape in our great country will be corrected.

  20. If you go back to May's first public addresses, she REPEATEDLY mentions her joint intelligence committee. It annoyed me back then.
    Why did she mention them over and over ?..

  21. Question: Didn't the left want everything declassified a couple weeks ago? I remember them claiming that critical information against Trump was being intentionally withheld. What happened to the left's narrative? My guess is someone finally read the report and put a gag order out to the media machine.

  22. Also in summer of 2016 the Podesta-Clinton DNC emails were given to Wikileaks by $eth Ri¢h. This data shows we’re dealing with worldwide ruling class Masonic occultist puppets investigating other puppets who are ALL largely on the exact same payroll, otherwise this murder wouldn’t have been squashed in the mainstream. Hanity tried to report it and got abruptly sent on,”Vacation.” The poor kid was shot and left to bleed out in the street like a dog for hours with hospitals just minutes away. He arrived in quite stable condition but he died of course. Trump can’t expose too much in the mainstream because it will be bad for globalist boom-bust-war business. This Russian collusion crap was to cover up the murder. What about Uranium One? The indictment process has taken way too long and I’d be surprised if anyone goes to jail- Trump is controlled opposition in a charade of puppets investigating puppets. I can only pray that I’m wrong but if he truly really wanted to drain the swamp he would have done more by now. Trumps in with the Jesuits and hard liners in the Middle East. Anti interventionism was a tactical Trump lie.

  23. This is deep, even foreign intel was in it with obama intelligence to take down trump. I wonder why Brennan is fighting so hard

  24. lovin your hair today!!! …great article / video / column …as well lovely Gina and staff at Epoch!!!

  25. I hope you can put together several shows in a row going over this rotten slander. A suggestion , consider a program in how federal district judges, in blue states, can stop a president with some ruling that’s a joke. When is it allowed under our constitution that district Jude’s can tell a sitting president what he can and can’t do. I say just ignore them and let them inforce their order.

  26. The coup was entirely a British operation with multiple intentions; to remove Trump thereby over throwing the US Constitution and to open door for war against Russia.

  27. It drives me crazy every time she says "no win" (known) or "un no win" (unknown). In the US both the "k" and the "w" are silent but that is probably just because of pure laziness!

    She's still kind of hot anyway!

  28. I'm really impressed with the news content of my subscription to The Epoch Times! And, value your news outlet over any other out there!

  29. So two supposed allies UK and Australia gave money to Hillary Clinton and DNC. So no surprise that they were in on the attempt to frame Trump. I would not consider them allies if I was Trump. These are the same people who didn't want Brexit either. Neither are the friends of the conservative voters in our country. Maybe other countries should keep their nose out of a dirt campaign. But then Obama did it to Benjamin Nentanyhau not sure of spelling anyway the President of Israel. Israel is our only true friend.

  30. Excellent presentation. The voluminous facts you stated were very well organized and presented in a way that the average layman could readily understand the timeline of all major events. Keep up the good work.

  31. Yes sure, also the secret meeting in London in October with Strzok and paige and GCHQ did not talk about Steel at all, pull the other one, The Telegraph.

  32. So the globalist media tries to set a narrative early on the world stage and they end up throwing Steele under the bus which looks like perjury.
    I know this hoax is obvious to anyone who’s followed along intensely, but the left is not going to stop. They will impeach him for their donors like Steyer, Bloomberg, PP, Soros, etc…
    We need to stay positive around moderates and wear Trump gear. If you don’t want the “red maga” bc it may provoke, fine, but we all need to promote to help him win 2020

  33. UK instrumental to disrupt Trump in retaliation for encouragement of Farrage and Brexit.? Parties were Euro-centric. England and Euro Elite wanted to stop any future nationalist continental waves. This is a CYA attempt . The declassified texts will show the purpose and intentions of England on this. THIS ENGLISH JUGGERNAUT AND STEELE'S Fabrication was ipso facto a Russian or European misinformation campaign to effect the 16 election to help Hillary (Their Pick).

  34. The Deep State has tentacles that span the Globe and will be very hard to cut off to find the Truth. I cannot understand how so many so called Americans can be against protecting the Greatest Experiment ever conceived by man, a Constitutional Republic ceding Power to The People. I guess for the 98% who Never took the Oath to Protect and Defend up to and including giving ALL it's just not worth taking time out from Enjoying Freedom to understand what it takes to Preserve that Freedom. I'm convinced MOST Politicians just mimic the words for a Photo-Op. Observing the events in Europe and England might give American Politicians a heads up that the World is waking up to the Perils of Open Borders and Socialism. OR it could just be Stupidity married to Greed driving their agenda?

  35. Attempting to overthrow the leader of a foreign country is considered by some to be an act of war. Just saying Mrs. May, just saying. 😄

  36. while surfing around checking on corruption in other governments
    around the world found this one hell of a story
    NURSE IN GERMANY SENDS A MESSAGE TO THE WORLD (& to Merkel):

    Just in case you don't think President Trump is doing the right thing! Read this!

    "Yesterday, at the hospital, we had a meeting about how the situation here and at the other Munich hospitals are unsustainable.

    *Clinics cannot handle the number of migrant medical emergencies, so they are starting to send everything to the main hospitals.

    *Many Muslims are refusing treatment by female staff, and we women are now refusing to go among those migrants!

    *Relations between the staff and migrants are going from bad to worse. Since last weekend, migrants going to the hospitals must be accompanied by police with K-9 units.

    *Many migrants have AIDS, syphilis, open TB and many exotic diseases that we in Europe do not know how to treat. If they receive a prescription to the pharmacy, they suddenly learn they have to pay cash. This leads to unbelievable outbursts, especially when it is about drugs for the children. They abandon the children with pharmacy staff with the words: So, cure them yourselves! So the police are not just guarding the clinics and hospitals, but also the large pharmacies.

    * We ask openly where are all those who welcomed the migrants in front of TV cameras with signs at train stations? Yes, for now, the border has been closed, but a million of them are already here and we will definitely not be able to get rid of them.

    *Until now, the number of unemployed in Germany was 2.2 million. Now it will be at least 3.5 million. Most of these people are completely unemployable. Only a small minimum of them have any education. What is more, their women usually do not work at all. I estimate that one in ten is pregnant. Hundreds of thousands of them have brought along infants and little kids under six, many emaciated and very needy.

    If this continues and Germany re-opens its borders, I am going home to the Czech Republic. Nobody can keep me here in this situation, not even for double the salary back home. I came to Germany to work, not to Africa or the Middle East!

    Even the professor who heads our department told us how sad it makes him to see the cleaning woman, who has cleaned every day for years for 800 euros and then meets crowds of young men in the hallways who just wait with their hands outstretched, waiting for free, and when they don't get it they throw a fit.

    I really don't need this! But I am afraid that if I return home, at some point it will be the same in the Czech Republic. If the Germans, with their systems, cannot handle this, then, guaranteed, back home will be total chaos….

    *You – who have not come in contact with these people have absolutely no idea what kind of badly behaved desperados these people are, and how Muslims act superior to our staff, regarding their religious accommodation.

    *For now, the local hospital staff have not come down with the diseases these people brought here, but with so many hundreds of patients every day of this is just a question of time.

    *In a hospital near the Rhine, migrants attacked the staff with knives after they had handed over an 8-month-old on the brink of death, who they'd dragged across half of Europe for three months. The child died two days later, despite having received top care at one of the best pediatric clinics in Germany. The pediatric physician had to undergo surgery and the two nurses are recovering in the ICU.

    Nobody has been punished. The local press is forbidden to write about it, so we can only inform you through email.What would have happened to a German if he had stabbed the doctor and nurses with a knife? Or if he had flung his own syphilis-infected urine into a nurse's face and so threatened her with infection? At a minimum he would have gone straight to jail and later to court. With these people so far, nothing has happened.

    And so I ask: Where are all those greeters and receivers from the train stations? Sitting pretty at home, enjoying their uncomplicated, safe lives. If it were up to me, I would round up all those greeters and bring them here first to our hospitals emergency ward as attendants! Then in to one of the buildings housing the migrants, so they can really look after them there themselves, without armed police and police dogs, who, sadly today, are in every hospital here in Bavaria.

    Is this situation coming to our country?

    If you understand the dangerous situation that is heading our way please share and spread this by all and any means that you have available.

  37. Illuminati McCain was therefore a spy for illuminati MI6 and guilty of treason against the United States.

  38. The kid gloves are off idiot of the left, your hero's are zero's! I hope Bill Barr
    wreaks havoc in your clandestine live's, If you didn't have anything to do with
    this attempted 'coup d'etat on President Trump you have nothing to fear.. But
    those who are in the nefarious game, Well.. It's coming for you, I can't wait!!

  39. MI6 spying on U.S. citizens (Trump campaign) at the request of Democrats and FBI………………Truly, the FBI like Hoover is nothing more than someone who digs up DIRT.

  40. Don't hold back, President Trump, sir,,,,let the world know there no such thing so call democracy. all about expose corruption.

  41. If Pres.Trump wi s reelection he needs to assemble unbiased unpolitical commission to examine government Intel. agencies and to recommend biases, SOP"s and establish a watchdog to.check they're unaccountability. Put in place safe guards with severe penalties for breach of trust.

  42. Please young lady correct your grammar. The word 'known' IS NOT pronounced as 'knowen'. The word 'the' IS NOT pronounced 'thu' prior to a vowel sound…a e i o u…it is pronounced "thee'. Look you do great reporting and I think you're very intelligent but when people have to listen to sloppy English pronunciation it grates.
    You might also want to actually pause and take a breath to emphasize the punctuation especially a 'full stop'. Otherwise what you are saying sounds like one long continual sentence. Love this channel though.

  43. It is treasonous to work with a foreign to undermine America. Dam The globalist Kabbalist communists. Bless Trump.

  44. Amazing how Trump survived all these filthy attacks to become the greatest US president ever. It shows that Americans are not as dumb as the deep state thought.

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